Frontier Inference Margins

An interactive model of what it costs to serve one token of a frontier LLM β€” and the gross margin that implies at today's prices. Defaults are grounded in public evidence (DeepSeek's serving disclosure, independent GB300/GB200 benchmarks, X-sphere analyses); every slider documents its sources. Drag things. Nothing here is Anthropic's actual ledger.

Marginal gross margin
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Blended cost
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per 1M tokens served (workload mix)
Blended realized price
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per 1M tokens billed (after cache mix)
Cost per 1M output
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input: β€”
Serving feasibility
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Margin if served entirely on each accelerator
Where the cost of a token goes owned-TCO decomposition per 1M blended tokens, by accelerator
Margin sensitivity β€” active parameters holding everything else at current settings
Cost per 1M output tokens across hardware generations current model settings; margin at current price labeled on each bar
Subscription economics is the $200 plan underwater? Depends whether you price usage at list or at marginal cost.

Full report: how fat are frontier inference margins?

Scope note: this is first and foremost an investigation of Anthropic's serving margins β€” that is where the 90–95% claim was made, where the public evidence concentrates, and where the two independent research runs went deep. The other providers in the calculator are included for comparison at materially lower evidence density; their presets are best-effort estimates (marked * where speculative). Each non-Anthropic provider has since received its own independent GPT-5.6 Pro deep dive β€” Β§10 audits what is actually known about each one, with margin confidence intervals and the reasons for their width, and links the full unedited research reports.

1 Β· The claim and the claimants

The claim under examination: Anthropic's marginal cost of serving a Claude token is so far below its API list price that the gross margin on serving is 90–95%. This is a claim about unit serving economics β€” one token, on a warm GPU, at scale β€” not about Anthropic's income statement (see Β§7 for why those diverge).

The loudest and most quantitative proponent is @teortaxesTex:

"math for DeepSeek Serving Opus is at most $4/1Mt. Anthropic is not retarded. They are fleecing you even on subscriptions, except maybe at 100% utilization" β€” Jun 28, 2026
"No, they'll just increase the batch size, have the same speed, and drive margins from 90% to 95%. You're welcome" β€” Jun 27, 2026

Earlier and more conservative from the same account: "if we exclude R&D and look at inference alone, Anthropic and OpenAI are making like 80% margins" (Mar 2025).

@zephyr_z9 (Zephyr) makes the same claim from the semis side: "At least xAI isn't juicing up the gross margins to 90%-95% and scamming consumers" (Jul 8, 2026) β€” while separately pegging Anthropic's company-level gross margin at ~70% with 15–20% FCF margin (Jun 24, 2026). Note those two numbers coexisting in one analyst's head: 90–95% on the unit, ~70% on the books.

An attribution check worth flagging: Jukan β€” a name often cited alongside this claim, identified by the Grok sweep as @jukan05, though GPT Pro's independent browsing instead surfaced posts under @Jukanlosreve (the two engines disagree; both are reported in Β§6) β€” was not found asserting 90–95% token margins. His widely-cited threads are about adjacent economics: GPU cluster leasing (xAI's ~220k GPUs at ~$2.60/GPU-hr β‰ˆ $5–6B/yr; "Anthropic converts roughly $5B of spend into what it expects to be $15B of ARR", May 2026) and the memory-bound nature of inference ("Inference is memory", Jun 2026). His famous 90%+ margin posts are about SK hynix DRAM, not Anthropic.

The counter-camp: @fleetingbits β€” "we know approximately what frontier lab inference margins are; it's like 40-50%; it's been reported a bunch of times. anthropic labels cloud provider commissions as a sales and marketing expense; so the gross margins are mostly inference compute costs." And in the middle, Dylan Patel of SemiAnalysis: Anthropic's margin on an Opus API token is "north of 80%".

2 Β· The evidence base, verified

2a Β· DeepSeek's serving disclosure β€” the one primary source in the field

On March 1, 2025 (Open Source Week "Day 6"), DeepSeek published actual production serving statistics for V3/R1 on H800 clusters: 73.7k input / 14.8k output tokens per second per 8-GPU H800 node, 56.3% input cache-hit rate, ~$87,072/day GPU cost (at $2/H800-hr) against $562,027/day theoretical revenue at R1 list prices β€” the famous "545% cost-profit ratio," which is a markup; as a margin it is 84.5% (a distinction TeorTaxes himself insisted on). Caveats DeepSeek listed: much traffic was free web/app users and off-peak V3 pricing, so realized revenue was materially lower than the theoretical figure.

Why it matters for Anthropic: DeepSeek proved ~85% serving margins at prices 10–45Γ— below Anthropic's list, on export-restricted hardware, in early 2025. Every input to that calculation has since improved: better chips (Β§4), better serving software, higher cache rates. The a-fortiori argument β€” if DeepSeek could do 85% at $2.19/Mtok output on H800s, what does $25/Mtok output on GB300s and TPUv7 imply? β€” is the strongest single piece of evidence in the bull case, and it survives scrutiny.

2b Β· The Musk size leak β€” total vs active, a distinction that matters

The leak is widely retold as "Musk revealed Opus is much smaller than expected" β€” but on total parameters it says the opposite. What Musk actually posted (Apr 9, 2026): "0.5T total. Current Grok is half the size of Sonnet and 1/10th the size of Opus. Very strong model for its size." The community deduction (e.g.): Sonnet β‰ˆ 1T, Opus β‰ˆ 5T total parameters β€” Opus is big.

The "smaller than expected" intuition belongs to active parameters: TeorTaxes, observing Fable served at ~90 tok/s, concluded it had "shockingly FEW active parameters for what it was", and Zephyr puts OpenAI's frontier at "~100B active range" with Opus/Fable "the highest active parameters" among peers. For serving cost, active parameters are what matter (FLOPs/token β‰ˆ 2 Γ— active); total size mostly sets the HBM footprint. A 5T-total/~300B-active MoE is the shape our defaults assume β€” and the active number is the single most uncertain, most consequential slider on this page. Even the total is contested: the "incompressible knowledge probes" estimation method (arXiv:2604.24827) carries Β±3Γ— error bars per model, and a methodological re-analysis lands nearer 1.1T total for Opus 4.7. GPT Pro's sanity check cuts the other way: a dense 5T Opus would cost more than its own $25/Mtok list price to serve β€” so if Musk's number is right, heavy sparsity isn't optional, it's implied.

2c Β· GLM 5.2 on GB300 β€” the ncode/Noumena deployment by @_xjdr

The researcher is @_xjdr; the product is ncode on the Noumena platform (code.noumena.com), served on GB300 NVL72 racks from Prime Intellect. His free-week postmortem (Jun 30, 2026) is the best public look at frontier-style serving on Blackwell Ultra:

"final GLM 5.2 served stats: ~12000 unique api keys, served ~300B tokens total, 232 tok/s/gpu output average, 431 tok/s/gpu output max sustained, 2.1 sec TTFT average (1M ctx), 81k tok average input size, 41% cache hit rate"

Configuration: 60Γ— B300 ("15 trays"), bf16 attention with fp8 experts/KV ("virtually 0 measurable quality difference"), no MTP, no Eagle β€” a custom Rust stack. A third-party estimate on his thread put the implied cost at ~$0.35/Mtok in, ~$1.50/Mtok out at $6/GPU-hr. Note his 232 tok/s/GPU average is output-only bookkeeping on a workload with 81k-token average inputs at 1M context β€” the GPUs were mostly doing prefill; it is not comparable to SGLang's 12k tok/s/GPU throughput records (different model, batch regime, and MTP).

Adjacent results worth separating from the ncode story (GPT Pro's browsing initially merged them, Β§6): GLM-5.2's architecture is public via Baseten's serving writeup β€” 744B total / 40B active, NVFP4-clean, 280+ tok/s/user on Blackwell (a per-user speed record, not aggregate throughput). And the headline GB300 aggregate number belongs to SGLang + NVIDIA serving DeepSeek-V4: 2,200 β†’ 11,200 tok/s/GPU from April to June 2026 on the same racks β€” five-fold, from software alone.

2d Β· What the plans actually hand out

Covered in Β§8 β€” the short version: heavy Claude Max users demonstrably extract 15–40Γ— the subscription price in API-equivalent tokens, which is only economically sane if the marginal cost of those tokens is a small fraction of list price. The plans are themselves evidence for the bull case.

3 Β· The cost model and its calibration

The calculator above prices a token from first principles:

output $/Mtok = ($/GPU-hr Γ· 3600 Γ· tokens/s/GPU) Γ— 10⁢ Γ· utilization, with tokens/s/GPU = (dense FP8 FLOPS Γ— precision factor Γ— effective-MFU Γ— interactivity) Γ· (2 Γ— active params). Prefill (input) uses the same form at higher MFU; cache reads cost a few percent of prefill. The workload mix (input:output ratio, cache-hit rate) blends the three, and the same mix prices revenue at list minus cache/batch/negotiated discounts.

Calibration, not vibes: the effective-MFU defaults reproduce the three best public measurements within a few percent:

Anchor (published)PublishedModel reproduces
DeepSeek disclosure, H800 decode (37B active, FP8)1,850 tok/s/GPU1,873 (effective MFU 7%)
DeepSeek disclosure, H800 prefill9,212 tok/s/GPU9,097 (MFU 34%)
vLLM GB200, R1 decode10,100 tok/s/GPU~10,140 (MFU 15%)
SGLang GB300 record, V4 Pro 1.6T FP4 + MTP>12,000 tok/s/GPU~11,800 (MFU 17% Γ— 1.85 FP4)
Ant Group/SGLang production, H20 decode (R1, FP8)~714 tok/s/GPU~720 (MFU 18%)
CloudMatrix-Infer, Ascend 910C decode (R1, INT8; vendor-measured)1,943 tok/s/NPU~1,930 (MFU 9.5% of 1.504 PF INT8)

Those single-digit decode MFUs are not a bug β€” decode is memory/interconnect-bound; this is why "inference is memory" and why bigger NVLink domains and HBM keep beating raw FLOPS. The H20's seemingly heroic 18% is the same physics from the other side: a bandwidth-rich chip whose FLOPS denominator is tiny.

4 Β· Chip efficiency: H100 β†’ GB300 β†’ Rubin

PlatformDense FP8 (PF)Dense FP4 (PF)HBMBWTDPRental (Jul 2026)
H100 SXM (2022)1.98β€”80 GB3.35 TB/s700 W$1.99–3.90/hr, spot β‰ˆ $2.40
H200 (2024)1.98β€”141 GB4.8 TB/s700 W$2.45–4.50/hr
B200 / GB200 NVL72 (2024-25)4.59186 GB8 TB/s1.0–1.2 kW$3.50–6.00/hr; rack β‰ˆ $3–3.5M
GB300 NVL72 "Blackwell Ultra" (2025-26)5.015288 GB8 TB/s1.4 kW$4–7/hr early; rack β‰ˆ $3.5–4.5M
TPU v7 Ironwood (GA Nov 2025)4.61β€”192 GB7.37 TB/s~1 kWundisclosed; Anthropic deal: up to 1M chips
Trainium2 / Trainium3 (GA Dec 2025)1.3 / 2.51β€”96 / 144 GB2.9 / 4.9 TB/s~0.5–0.8 kWAWS-internal; Project Rainier = $11B, 2.2 GW, ~500k chips
H800 β€” China export SKU (2023)1.98β€”80 GB3.35 TB/s700 WIDC annual-commit $1.47–2.06/hr (mid-2026, +30% post-Spring-Festival); DeepSeek's disclosure assumed $2
H20 β€” China-legal SKU (2024)0.296β€”96 GB4.0 TB/s400 W~$10–12k chip / ~$20k installed; rental class spans ~$0.76 (IDC annual) to $7+ (cloud on-demand)
Huawei Ascend 910C (2024–25)1.50 (INT8; no FP8)β€”128 GB3.2 TB/s~0.6 kW~$23k/chip installed; Huatai procurement $1.71–2.25/hr; CloudMatrix 384 β‰ˆ RMB 60M
Vera Rubin VR200 NVL144 (H2 2026)~3.5Γ— GB200~50 PF/pkg eff.HBM4~13 TB/s~1.8 kWprojection

Measured, not marketing: SemiAnalysis InferenceX (the successor to InferenceMAX, the field's independent benchmark) finds the most-optimized GB300 NVL72 delivers ~17Γ— the best H100 config in FP8 and ~32Γ— in FP4 on DeepSeek R1 (Jun 27, 2026) β€” and, critically, that software alone was a 14Γ— gain on the same silicon (baseline FP8 ~1k β†’ wideEP+disagg ~8k β†’ +MTP ~14k tok/s/GPU). SGLang's production numbers agree: 12k tok/s/GPU on V4 Pro 1.6T, 6.5Γ— over B200 with Dynamo disaggregation. At rack level: an H100 rack two years ago did ~8.8k tok/s; a GB300 NVL72 does ~370k β€” 42Γ— in two years (8Γ— of it HBM growth).

The China stack is its own cost universe. Under export controls the Chinese labs serve on three tiers: hoarded pre-ban H800s (H100 compute, capped NVLink β€” where DeepSeek's disclosure happened), the deliberately compute-starved but bandwidth-rich H20 (the main legal SKU since mid-2025; decode-friendly because decode is bandwidth-bound β€” Ant Group's production SGLang deployment is the best public anchor), and Huawei's Ascend 910C (Huawei's CloudMatrix-Infer paper reports 1,943 tok/s/NPU decode on R1, while DeepSeek's internal evaluation put the chip at ~60% of H100 β€” vendor and customer numbers disagree, so the calculator's Ascend row carries wide error bars). H200s were license-cleared for ten named Chinese firms in early 2026 but essentially none had shipped as of May; Beijing reportedly moved to allow those purchases this week (Jul 7–8). Chip scarcity also cuts the other way on price: Chinese H-series lease rates rose 20–30% over early 2026 on a >1,000Γ— surge in national token volume (TrendForce) β€” Chinese margins are being squeezed from the cost side at exactly the moment Western $/token falls. One more trap: "the China rental rate" is a category error β€” the same H20 spans roughly Β₯5–72 per card-hour (>10Γ—) between annual IDC bare-metal leases and hyperscaler on-demand instances. The calculator's China rows use annual-commit rates; the GPU-hour cost multiplier is the dial for other rental classes.

But cost per token falls slower than throughput rises, because rental prices track capability: $2.40/hr H100 β†’ $6/hr GB300 eats ~2.5Γ— of the 17Γ—. Net hardware-economics gain per generation in $/Mtok: H100β†’H200 ~1.2Γ—, H200β†’GB200 ~2–3Γ—, GB200β†’GB300 ~1.1–1.5Γ— (GB300's edge is HBM capacity for reasoning/long-context, not FLOPS), Rubin ~2–3Γ— again. Cumulative 2024β†’2027: roughly 6–25Γ— cheaper per token at the hardware level, before model-side efficiency (sparser MoEs, MTP, quantization) which historically contributed as much again. This is why margins at constant list prices mechanically march toward 95%+ β€” and why in practice prices fall instead (Opus's 2025-11 cut to $5/$25 was 3Γ—; fast-mode at $30/$150 shows how the latency premium is being monetized separately).

5 Β· Claude's analysis and verdict

Verdict: the 90–95% claim is approximately right for what it actually claims β€” the marginal margin on list-priced API tokens β€” and 95% is not even the ceiling for output tokens on the newest hardware. But it is the top of a stack of margins that shrinks at every step toward the income statement.

My point estimates for mid-2026, at list prices, balanced latency, 50% fleet utilization, neocloud-level hardware costs:

  • Opus-class (assume ~5T total / ~300B active): output tokens cost β‰ˆ $2.50–5.50/Mtok to serve vs $25 list β†’ 78–90%; blended across a realistic traffic mix (15:1 I/O, 60% cache) β†’ ~75–88%, median β‰ˆ 80%. TeorTaxes's "$4/Mt ceiling" is inside my range; Dylan Patel's ">80%" is my median.
  • Sonnet-class (~1T total / ~120B active at $3/$15): the sparser model on the same fleet β†’ 85–93% blended. The 90–95% zone genuinely exists here, and for any frontier model served throughput-optimized on GB200/GB300 at list prices.
  • If active params are lower than my assumption (TeorTaxes's reading of Fable's serving speed), Opus margins move up 5–10 points. The claim's truth is nearly monotonic in one number nobody outside Anthropic knows.

Three things the bull case gets right: (1) the DeepSeek a-fortiori argument is sound and the only primary-source-grounded argument anyone has; (2) caching is a margin machine β€” cache reads bill at 10% of input price but cost ~1–5% of prefill to serve, so agentic traffic stays high-margin even at deep effective discounts; (3) each hardware generation adds margin at constant prices, and Anthropic sits on three platforms (GB-class NVIDIA, up to 1M TPU v7, ~500k Trainium) with pricing leverage none of its open-weight competitors have.

Three things it elides: (1) utilization β€” fleets are provisioned for peak; at 35% utilization my Opus median drops ~8 points; (2) the latency premium is not free β€” interactive serving at user-acceptable speed costs ~1.4–3Γ— throughput-optimal serving (fast mode's 6Γ— price exists for a reason); (3) subscriptions and whales β€” the plans hand tail users 15–40Γ— their subscription in tokens (Β§8), and at marginal cost the top decile is genuinely underwater, which is margin leakage the API numbers never show.

Forward: on GB300β†’Rubin economics, at unchanged list prices, Opus-class output margins pass 92–96% by 2027; I expect Anthropic to keep converting the surplus into price cuts and reasoning-token volume instead of letting the sticker margin print, so the quoted marginal margin stays in the high-80s/low-90s while $/token falls another 3–5Γ—. The interesting question isn't whether 90–95% is right β€” it's how long the industry can hold list prices this far above a falling cost floor with open-weight models (DeepSeek V4, GLM 5.2, Kimi) selling adequate quality at 10–20Γ— less.

6 Β· GPT-5.6 Pro's analysis and verdict

GPT-5.6 Pro's verdict: "Standard-list-price marginal serving margin: approximately 92–94% for Opus and 94–96% for Sonnet on a mature 2026 fleet." And: "Is 95% an upper bound? No." β€” Sonnet at normal $3/$15 pricing exceeds it (96.3% on output), Opus on strategic TPU contracts exceeds it (97.2%), and the electricity-only marginal margin is >99.8%. But 95% is "not conservative for every token": at public cloud rates the same math yields only 55–85%.

Method. It priced an "economic marginal cost" β€” accelerator opportunity cost at Anthropic-scale contract rates, 75% fleet utilization, +10% CPU/network/reliability overhead β€” explicitly not electricity-only and not full COGS. Architecture: Opus β‰ˆ 5T total / 300B active (independently landing on the same activation ratio as Β§5, ~6%, matching DeepSeek's 5.5% and GLM-5.2's 5.4%), FLOPs/token = 2.3 Γ— active. Fleet blend: 40% TPU v7, 25% GB300, 15% GB200, 15% Trainium2, 5% H200.

Central estimates (Opus, $/Mtok serving cost, input β†’ output):

BasisInput cost β†’ margin @ $5Output cost β†’ margin @ $25
Fleet blend (central)$0.47 β†’ 90.6%$1.68 β†’ 93.3%
GB300 NVL72 only$0.31 β†’ 93.8%$1.44 β†’ 94.2%
TPU v7 at est. strategic rate (~$1.60/hr per SemiAnalysis)$0.24 β†’ 95.1%$0.70 β†’ 97.2%
H100/H200 (economic rates)~$1.2 β†’ ~76%~$4.9 β†’ ~80%
Public cloud rates (AWS H100 $5.19/hr … B300 $14.04/hr)margins collapse to 55–85% β€” "why both sides of the online argument can produce superficially plausible calculations"

Sensitivity it flagged as dominant: active parameters. Opus at 150B active β†’ 95–97% margins; at 600B active β†’ 81–87%. Identical conclusion to Β§5: the whole debate compresses into one undisclosed number.

New evidence it surfaced (not in the X sweep): PitchBook/Morningstar's June 2026 estimate of Anthropic gross margin β‰ˆ 44%, with compute spend of $0.71 per revenue dollar in Q1 falling to a projected $0.56 in Q2 β€” the freshest business-margin datapoint anyone has; GLM-5.2's actual architecture (744B total / 40B active) via Baseten's "world's fastest GLM-5.2 API" writeup (280+ tok/s/user on Blackwell NVFP4); and the SGLang+NVIDIA GB300 progression 2,200 β†’ 11,200 tok/s/GPU between April and June 2026 β€” a 5Γ— gain from software alone on fixed hardware, its exhibit for why "serving software is a first-order economic variable." Its illustrative bridge from 93.5% marginal margin down to the ~44% reported gross margin allocates: βˆ’12 pts price realization, βˆ’8 peak provisioning, βˆ’7.5 cloud markup/older hardware, βˆ’9 free traffic + subscription whales, βˆ’13 CPU/network/retries/safety/internal inference.

Attribution divergence, preserved: GPT Pro's browsing never located the ncode/Noumena deployment and instead attributed the GB300 GLM-5.2 story to a merger of the SGLang/NVIDIA DeepSeek-V4 result with Baseten's GLM-5.2 work. The Grok X sweep, however, found the actual account β€” @_xjdr's ncode/Noumena, with primary post URLs (Β§2c) β€” while GPT Pro's browsing surfaced hardware-cost posts under the handle @Jukanlosreve, contradicting Grok's @jukan05 identification. Where the two engines' account attributions conflict we show both; the direct post links in Β§1–2 are the ground truth we could verify.

Where GPT Pro and I (Claude) differ β€” and why it's smaller than it looks: its central Opus numbers run ~10 points above my rental-based median (93.3% vs ~80% blended). The gap is almost entirely procurement assumptions, not physics: it prices hardware at Anthropic's negotiated strategic rates (TPU ~$1.60/hr) and 75% utilization; my median uses open-market neocloud rental at 50% utilization. Run my model in owned-TCO mode at its utilization and the two converge at ~93% β€” which is exactly what the "SemiAnalysis / Dylan Patel" and "GPT-5.6 Pro fleet model" presets above let you reproduce. The honest summary: the marginal margin at list price is 78–85% if you think Anthropic pays market rates for compute, 90–95% if you think it pays hyperscaler-partner rates. Everyone agrees on the token math; the argument is about the invoice.

7 Β· Why reported gross margins are so much lower

Reported/leaked figures for Anthropic's business-level gross margin paint a different picture from the unit math. The Information (Jan 2026, from people with knowledge of its financials): Anthropic lowered its 2025 gross-margin projection to 40% (down 10 points from the earlier 50% plan) because inference costs on Google/Amazon servers ran 23% higher than anticipated; including free-tier chatbot inference the margin would be β‰ˆ38%. Same reporting: 2025 revenue β‰ˆ $4.5B (~12Γ— 2024's $381M), 86% of it API. SemiAnalysis put the 2024 accounting gross margin at βˆ’94% (yes, negative). Zephyr's mid-2026 read is ~70% GM with 15–20% FCF margin; a detailed July 2026 thread claims quarterly gross profit swung from βˆ’$55M to ~$453M with inference cost/token down ~40Γ— since early 2024 (@IvanaSpear). The freshest independent estimate is PitchBook/Morningstar (Jun 2026): gross margin β‰ˆ 44%, with compute spend of $0.71 per revenue dollar in Q1 2026, projected $0.56 in Q2. The trajectory β€” deeply negative (2024) β†’ ~40% planned (2025) β†’ ~44% estimated (mid-2026), with bulls like Zephyr already seeing 70% β€” is the margin ladder being climbed in public, and The Information ran a follow-up on why the labs kept missing their own gross-margin forecasts.

The bridge from ~90% unit margins down to ~40–70% books, roughly in order of size:

Bridge itemMechanismRough magnitude
Cloud markupAnthropic buys most compute from AWS/GCP, who take their own margin; some channel revenue also shares 30–40% with the clouds (Bedrock/Vertex economics). DeepSeek owns its H800s; Anthropic mostly doesn't own its fleet.βˆ’10 to βˆ’20 pts
Utilization & peak provisioningCapacity sized for Monday-morning peak; the unit math assumes a busy GPU. 35% vs 70% utilization is a 2Γ— on cost.βˆ’5 to βˆ’15 pts
Subscription over-consumptionFlat-fee plans where the tail extracts 15–40Γ— the fee (Β§8); weekly caps (Aug 2025) exist to clamp exactly this.βˆ’5 to βˆ’10 pts
Free tier & internal inferenceclaude.ai free traffic, evals, RL/synthetic-data generation all burn serving compute against zero revenue (some booked as R&D, treatment varies).βˆ’5 to βˆ’10 pts
Discounts & mixEnterprise/committed-use discounts, 50%-off batch tier, cache-read-heavy agentic mix pulling realized $/Mtok toward $0.99 observed vs $5/$25 sticker.βˆ’3 to βˆ’8 pts
Accounting choicesWhat lands in COGS vs S&M vs R&D differs by lab β€” fleetingbits' point that Anthropic books cloud commissions under sales & marketing cuts the other way, flattering GM.Β±

Training compute, the famous money pit, sits below gross margin in R&D β€” it explains why the company loses money overall (training reportedly falling from 400%+ of revenue toward ~36% by end-2026 per the IvanaSpear thread), not why gross margin is below the unit margin.

8 Β· The subscription-token investigations

The best single investigation found: ksred's Claude Code pricing guide β€” longitudinal tracking of ~10B tokens over 8 months: ~$15,000 at API list prices against ~$800 of Max subscription fees (~19Γ—). The canonical X-thread calculation is @melvynx (Jan 2026): $50 of tracked usage = 6% of a week's Max-20x allowance β‡’ ~$800/week β‡’ ~$3,200/month of API-equivalent capacity for $200. Corroborating longitudinal data points: 14B+ tokens / $7.5k ccusage in 2.5 months, $8,030 in 4 weeks, 8.6B tokens / ~$8.5k over 60 days (~21Γ— leverage), and the pathological single-session case: $4,243 at token rates in one session on a $100 plan.

Two readings, both correct: (a) at list prices these plans are massively underwater β€” Anthropic sells $3,200 of sticker for $200; (b) at marginal cost (this page's subject) $3,200 of API-equivalent usage costs perhaps $300–900 to serve depending on mix β€” so the median subscriber is comfortably profitable and only the whale tail is subsidized. That tension is exactly why weekly limits appeared (Aug 2025) and why the 5-hour windows keep being retuned (May 2026 doubling). The plans are a price-discrimination scheme that only works because marginal cost per token is tiny β€” the subscription card in the calculator lets you find the exact break-even.

9 Β· The most comprehensive public analyses

10 Β· The other providers: what's known, what isn't

The Anthropic verdict above rests on an unusual density of evidence: a primary serving disclosure from a direct competitor, a parameter leak from a rival CEO, leaked business financials, and a live X-sphere argument between named analysts. None of the other providers has all of that, and some have almost none of it. The cards below apply the same token math to each provider but grade the inputs honestly: the badge grades the evidence base (not the margin), the headline number is the central estimate for the flagship's blended marginal serving margin at list prices, and the interval is an 80%-confidence band whose width is explained inside each card. Expand a card for what is actually known, what isn't, and the dominant unknowns.

OpenAI β€” GPT-5.6 Sol evidence: medium ~94% (80% CI 86–97%)

The closest analogue to the Anthropic case: a partner-hosted fleet (OpenAI discloses 3 GW of dedicated inference capacity on Hopper/Blackwell across Microsoft, OCI and CoreWeave β€” contractually controlled but not owned), premium list prices (Sol $5/$30 short-context), and an active-parameter estimate (~100B) that is only a community figure β€” though one independently corroborated by Epoch's inference-economics work. The most interesting tension: a ~94% modeled list-price margin coexists with a reported 70% "compute margin for paying users" (The Information, Oct 2025) and a 33% company adjusted gross margin β€” the gap is take-or-pay reserved capacity, subscriptions and free traffic, i.e. the same margin-stack that separates Anthropic's unit math from its books (Β§7).

Known knowns
  • Sol/Terra/Luna list prices: $5/$30, $2.50/$15, $1/$6 (in/out, short-context); batch/flex exactly βˆ’50%; cache reads βˆ’90% (disclosed)
  • 3 GW dedicated inference capacity; Stargate Abilene runs GB200 via OCI; strategy explicitly "partner-centric" (disclosed)
  • Hidden reasoning tokens bill as output; requests >272K input reprice entirely at the long-context tariff (disclosed)
  • 70% compute margin on paying users (Oct 2025) and 33% adjusted gross margin for 2025, vs a 46% forecast (The Information)
  • Codex credit rates map exactly onto the Sol API tariff β€” subscription leakage is being metered now (disclosed)
Known unknowns
  • Parameters and routing: ~100B active is an estimate; effective-capacity methods allow 3–29T total
  • Production precision (MXFP4 demonstrated in gpt-oss; Sol's layers undisclosed)
  • The Azure/Stargate transfer price ($2.2–4.8/GPU-hr modeled band) and Microsoft's revenue-share percentage
  • Fleet occupancy and aggregate tok/s/GPU β€” a >4Γ— cost span on its own
  • Whether the reported >50% inference-cost optimization (logged-out tier) generalizes to Sol

Why the interval is 86–97%: throughput assumptions alone span >4Γ— in cost; reserved take-or-pay capacity can make slack-period allocated cost several times the engineering marginal cost; and the true transfer price is bracketed only by market comparables and Oracle-offtake arithmetic.

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Google β€” Gemini 3.1 Pro evidence: low (params) ~96% (80% CI 89–98%)

The highest central margin on the page, for a structural reason: Google is the only provider serving a frontier model on silicon it designs, in datacenters it owns, at internal cost β€” a derived β‰ˆ$1.28/Ironwood-hour (vs the $12 on-demand public rate, and below even Anthropic's reported ~$1.60 strategic rate). But it carries the weakest architecture evidence of any provider: no credible leak of Gemini's total or active parameters exists at all, so the 120B-active/3T-total inputs are scenario midpoints, not estimates. The disclosed facts are all about scale and trajectory: serving unit costs down 78% during 2025, ~3.2 quadrillion tokens/month across surfaces, ~19B API tokens/minute.

Known knowns
  • List: $2/$12 with $0.20 cache reads ≀200K (higher tier above); no free API tier for 3.1 Pro (disclosed)
  • Gemini serves on TPUs; Ironwood: 4.614 PF FP8, 192 GB, 7.38 TB/s, 9,216-chip pods (disclosed)
  • Serving unit cost βˆ’78% during 2025; a further >30% cut on Search AI responses after Gemini 3 (disclosed, earnings calls)
  • ~3.2 quadrillion tokens/month, ~19B API tok/min, 2.5B+ AI Overviews users (disclosed)
  • Full-stack energy telemetry: accelerators are only 58% of per-prompt energy β€” the 1.72Γ— stack-overhead anchor (disclosed, paper)
Known unknowns
  • Total and active parameters β€” genuinely unknown outside Google; a 60–240B active bracket is a 4Γ— cost swing
  • Production precision and model-to-fleet routing (Ironwood vs Trillium vs v5e vs pre-GA TPU 8i)
  • Internal transfer price for TPU time β€” no credible report exists
  • Production throughput at latency (decode MFU modeled at 4–15%)
  • Realized $/token across the enormous free surface (Search, app, Workspace)

Why the interval is 89–98%: the two dominant unknowns (active params, effective decode MFU) each span 3–4Γ— in cost, but vertical integration puts a floor under the answer β€” sub-90% requires a much denser model and much worse production throughput than any public signal suggests.

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xAI β€” Grok 4.5 evidence: medium ~67% (80% CI 10–85%)

The one lab that owns (or at least operationally controls) its fleet β€” and the widest confidence interval on the page, because "what does a GPU-hour cost xAI?" has three defensible answers. The SpaceXAI prospectus discloses a fleet of >440k accelerators (200k+ H100/H200/GB200 at Colossus, 110k GB200 + 110k GB300 at Colossus II) β€” but $20.2B of it sits on finance leases, and AI capex ran $12.7B in 2025 alone. Grok 4.5 (launched Jul 8 at $2/$6) is disclosed at 1.5T total parameters; active count is anyone's guess (100–500B). The decisive fact: Anthropic pays xAI $1.25B/month for ~325k GPUs (β‰ˆ$5.27/GPU-hr) β€” so every GPU-hour spent serving Grok forgoes a disclosed wholesale price more than twice xAI's estimated full-cycle cost. At cash-marginal cost Grok's margin is ~92%; at full-cycle TCO ~67%; at the Anthropic-contract opportunity cost, serving output-heavy traffic barely beats selling the capacity. Zephyr's "xAI isn't juicing margins" is true or false depending entirely on which lens you pick.

Known knowns
  • Grok 4.5 = 1.5T-total MoE ("V9 foundation model", Musk; MoE per Cursor); 80 tok/s user streams; $2/$0.50/$6 list (disclosed)
  • Fleet: >440k accelerators across Colossus I/II; next 220k GB300 phase planned (prospectus, disclosed)
  • Valor equipment leases: $20.2B aggregate undiscounted β€” "owned" β‰  paid-for (disclosed)
  • Anthropic capacity contract: $1.25B/mo for ~325k GPUs β‰ˆ $5.27/GPU-hr; Google (from Oct 2026): $920M/mo for ~110k β‰ˆ $11.45/hr (disclosed/derived)
  • Q1 2026 AI segment: $818M revenue, $456M cost of revenue (44.3% segment GM), βˆ’$2.47B operating (disclosed)
  • Training MFU reportedly ~11% ("embarrassingly low", target 50%) (credibly reported)
Known unknowns
  • Active parameters and routing on the 1.5T MoE (100–500B β€” the Grok-2 lineage ran unusually dense at 42.7%)
  • Saturated aggregate throughput β€” 80 tok/s is per stream; the single largest uncertainty (~8Γ— cost swing)
  • Production precision and replica footprint
  • How capacity is allocated among Grok, Anthropic, Google, Cursor, training, and idle
  • Realized revenue per token (free tier, X Premium+, SuperGrok, Cursor bundles)

Why the interval is 10–85%: unknown batch throughput spans ~8Γ— in cost, and the GPU-hour can be honestly valued anywhere from $0.60 (cash) through $2.40 (full-cycle) to $5.27 (contracted opportunity cost) β€” the margin question dissolves into the valuation question.

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DeepSeek β€” V4 Pro evidence: high ~69% (80% CI 45–83%)

The inversion of the Anthropic story. DeepSeek has the best evidence of any provider β€” disclosed architecture (1.6T total / 49B active, selective FP4), disclosed pricing, and the field's only production serving disclosure β€” yet the lowest estimated margin, because it chose to convert its efficiency into price: a permanent 75% cut took V4 Pro to $0.435/$0.87, roughly 60% below R1's old output price. Repricing the old disclosed workload at today's tariff turns the famous 84.5% margin into ~67% before any cost improvement β€” and V4-Flash would be underwater on the old cost structure. The announced mid-July 2Γ— peak-hour surcharge would restore ~84.5% in peak windows: the old margin, now sold as a surge price. Meanwhile the cost side is squeezed by export controls β€” the fleet is now reportedly part Huawei Ascend 950, with all the software-stack overhead that implies.

Known knowns
  • V4 Pro: 1.6T/49B; V4-Flash: 284B/13B; FP4 is selective (routed experts + indexer; KV stays BF16/FP8) (disclosed)
  • List (Jul 9): $0.003625 cache-hit / $0.435 miss / $0.87 out β€” after a permanent 75% cut (disclosed)
  • The 2025 H800 production trace: $2/hr assumption, 84.5% theoretical margin at R1 list (disclosed)
  • Huawei Ascend 950 involvement in V4 serving (credibly reported, Reuters); expert-parallel stack validated on both NVIDIA and Ascend (disclosed)
  • 2Γ— peak-window tariff announced for the full V4 launch (mid-July) (credibly reported)
  • China H800 asking rates $1.08–1.54/GPU-hr β€” now below the old $2 basis, though up ~30% since the Spring Festival (vendor quotes/market survey)
Known unknowns
  • Current fleet mix (H800 vs H20 vs Ascend 950 vs internal) β€” the largest cost uncertainty
  • V4 production throughput β€” no V4 equivalent of the 2025 73.7k/14.8k tok/s disclosure
  • The 2026 owned/rented split and true chip-hour basis
  • How much traffic actually exercises FP4-native paths on heterogeneous hardware
  • Realized revenue vs list (free app/web traffic; aliases routed to Flash until Jul 24)

Why the interval is 45–83%: the estimate scales the disclosed 2025 baseline by two unknown factors β€” hardware-hour cost (0.5–1.1Γ— the old basis) and per-token work for the bigger-but-sparser V4 (1.05–1.5Γ—) β€” which compound to a 3Γ— cost span.

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Zhipu / Z.ai β€” GLM 5.2 evidence: high ~60% (80% CI 35–77%)

The rare provider with audited numbers: Zhipu's Hong Kong listing (Jan 2026) forces disclosure nobody else makes. Its cloud/API segment ran a βˆ’0.4% gross margin in H1 2025 (price-war casualty) recovering to 18.9% for FY2025 β€” and with API prices up 83% since end-2025, a price-only counterfactual lands in the mid-50s, which is what the marginal estimate here reflects. The architecture is fully disclosed (744B/40B, open weights), and third-party resellers bound the cost from above: DeepInfra profitably serves GLM-5.2 below Z.ai's own list. The wrinkle: Zhipu barely owns compute anymore (capex fell 84% in 2025 β€” it buys compute as a service) and says it serves across nine domestic chip platforms, so its cost basis is contract-opaque and its Coding Plan (~242k paying developers) can be deeply subsidized for heavy users.

Known knowns
  • GLM-5.2: 744B/40B, BF16+FP8 open checkpoints, 1M context (disclosed)
  • List: $1.40 / $0.26 cached / $4.40 out (disclosed)
  • Audited FY2025: cloud/API revenue RMB 190.4M at 18.9% GM (H1: βˆ’0.4%); company net loss RMB 4.7B (HKEX filings)
  • First-party inference on nine domestic platforms incl. Ascend, Cambricon, Moore Threads (disclosed); one Atlas 800T A3 node holds the ~750B model in W8A8/W4A8 (disclosed)
  • Capex RMB 462M β†’ 75M; compute bought as 1–4 year service contracts (disclosed)
  • DeepInfra sells GLM-5.2 at $0.93/$3.00 β€” below Z.ai list β€” a conditional cost ceiling (disclosed)
Known unknowns
  • Traffic share by chip platform β€” nine named, zero percentages
  • The confidential compute-service rate (public Chinese card-hour prices span >4Γ—)
  • First-party serving precision (FP8? W4A8? quality-based fallback?)
  • Production throughput at their latency target
  • Coding Plan consumption distribution β€” claimed 15–30Γ— (even "~100Γ—") API-value leverage vs actual breakage

Why the interval is 35–77%: decode throughput and the confidential compute price each move the answer Β±10–20 points; the audited 18.9% blended floor and the reseller price ceiling are what keep the interval from being wider still.

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Moonshot β€” Kimi K2.7 Code evidence: medium ~81% (80% CI 55–91%)

The healthiest estimated margin among the Chinese labs, for a legible reason: K2.7 kept a premium output price ($4.00/M β€” 4.6Γ— DeepSeek V4 Pro's post-cut $0.87) on an aggressively cheap-to-serve architecture β€” 1T total but only 32B active, in natively quantized selective INT4 that fits an 8-GPU replica. The open weights make the cost side unusually boundable: a reproducible 128Γ—H200 benchmark puts the short-context decode-accelerator floor at ~$0.21/M output, SemiAnalysis's same-lineage runs span $0.14–$1.00/M by hardware and speed, and DeepInfra profitably(?) resells K2.7 at $3.50/M. Business context: ARR reportedly passed $300M by mid-June with API revenue above 70% β€” Moonshot is the most API-dependent of the Chinese labs, which is exactly where these margins live.

Known knowns
  • K2.7 Code / K2.6: 1T total, 32B active, 384 experts, 256K context; selective weight-only INT4 (595GB); no native MTP (disclosed, open config)
  • List: $0.95 / $0.19 cached / $4.00 out; HighSpeed exactly 2Γ— price for 5–6Γ— user speed; batch = 60% of standard (disclosed)
  • Historical production on A800/H800, thousands of nodes, >100B tokens/day, ~40% prefix-cache ratio (Mooncake paper, USENIX FAST '25)
  • Reproducible K2 decode floor ~$0.21/M output (128Γ—H200); same-lineage cost curves $0.14–$1.00/M (LMSYS, SemiAnalysis)
  • ARR >$300M by mid-June 2026, API >70% of revenue; ~$2B raised at ~$20B valuation in May (credibly reported)
Known unknowns
  • Current accelerator mix β€” A800/H800 verified only historically; H20/Ascend production use unproven; Alibaba distributes the API but GPU residency is unknown
  • Hosted precision path (open INT4 checkpoint β‰  production configuration; no MTP head, but a draft model could exist internally)
  • Production throughput/batching at their latency target (32β†’90 tok/s/user alone moves cost 2.4Γ—)
  • Owned-vs-rented split and effective GPU-hour basis (China retail proxies $1.01–$2.01/hr)
  • Traffic mix and realization (batch share, HighSpeed share, subscription quota consumption)

Why the interval is 55–91%: the open weights pin the architecture but not the deployment β€” per-user speed targets and the actual fleet each move serving cost 2–3Γ—; the $0.21 decode floor and the $3.50 reseller price bracket the answer from both sides. Note this is an output-token margin; a blended margin needs Moonshot's undisclosed traffic mix.

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Method note: X posts located and quoted via a Grok 4.5 agent sweep (2026-07-09); hardware/TCO data via Parallel deep research + Exa across SemiAnalysis, MLCommons, NVIDIA/Google/AWS primary pages; cross-model verification via an independent GPT-5.6 Pro research run. The per-provider audits in Β§10 come from one dedicated GPT-5.6 Pro deep dive per provider plus two Chinese-accelerator hardware sweeps (all 2026-07-09, archived unedited in the research annex). Attributions (Jukan's handle, the direction of the Musk leak, the ncode/Noumena identification) were verified against primary posts; where the research engines disagreed, both readings are shown rather than harmonized. Model sizes for closed models remain estimates β€” the calculator exists so you can disagree with a slider instead of a reply-guy.